Mark Brown spoke with volunteer and NHS worker Khalid at a pop-up vaccination event at the Islamic Centre in Lewisham in June 2021.
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MB: This is Mark Brown for Lewisham Vaccination Stories, on a very, very, very hot mid-June afternoon at Lewisham Islamic Centre. I am here with…
KR: Khalid Rahman.
MB: So, Khalid, what is it you are doing here today?
KR: Today I am volunteering with Lewisham Islamic Centre. This is our second clinic that we have opened up to vaccinate our community. Not only our community but other communities also. So depending on if you heard our advertisement, you can come from another borough, and we are happy to vaccinate you, too, but we do prioritise with our community.
The first clinic, it was a very successful clinic. We vaccinated over 200 people. We had to turn away a lot of people, and that tells you that at the time there was a huge demand of the people that needed it.
This is my second time I am volunteering today. Volunteering for such a clinic, it is a personal thing for me, really, because I actually work for the NHS. I work on the medical admissions unit, at an NHS hospital. What we have experienced in the last 18 months or 18 months ago was a real eye-opener in terms of just the whole structure of the NHS, just our users in terms of patients, the situation that we were faced with in terms of this new virus that came upon us, and just dealing with that, actually.
This is my second time I am volunteering for Lewisham Islamic Centre, to run this clinic. It has been a second successful clinic. However, compared to the first clinic I feel that most of the bracket, age group, that was supposed to be vaccinated has more or less had their first vaccine and even had their second.
So we are at a stage in our country where it is kind of at a standstill, because we need to concentrate more on the under-30s and below now. So that is why it is a bit more of a slow pace, I believe.
MB: So what do you reckon puts people off coming for their vaccination?
KR: That can be for various reasons. Firstly, I mean it has been 18 years [sic] since we have been in this situation. So coming from a place where you could fall into an argument with either close friends, family members, or just normal strangers, you can’t be having a conversation with family members or people that you know and keep going through that. So what you do is someone has got to stop.
So at the beginning of it, I did used to get into little debates, discussions, and they used to turn a little bit heated because one person is one way and the other person is the other end. Everyone has got an opinion. The only thing is what opinions matter? That is what you have got to ask yourself.
So, usually, every time someone has had a real negative perception or is even really vocal in terms of speaking out against the vaccine, just dislodging it totally or not acknowledging it at all, it is in those circumstances where, even up to today, I will get involved and say my opinion. It is important that we don’t allow people to diss what has happened, or just make it hearsay, to say, “It is all made up,” “It is fake,” “The virus didn’t exist,” whatever people want to say. I am not going to allow that to happen. I am not going to disrespect all the people that lost their lives.
Yes, so I wouldn’t disrespect anyone in terms of the people that have suffered in the 18 years. So it is because of that reason, I will always have an opinion because I work on a medical admissions unit, like I said, and in my 11 years of working with the NHS I have never witnessed such an environment which was of — When I have to think about it now or talk about it, it was close to like a war — In terms of emotions and frantic and the noise level, it was just like a war zone, but just without the blood.
So you can imagine what a war zone can be like. Our ward was exactly like that, just with no blood. So it was nothing that was made up. That is definitely something true.
MB: I think it has been a horrible, horrible time. Have you had your vaccination?
KR: So, again, I have actually had– I will just answer it quickly. I have had both my vaccinations. I wasn’t someone– My mother, bless her, she was one of those hard hit, and still is, because she has always taken it seriously, and maybe more than others because we are at the other end of the spectrum where people are mentally scarred also. So it has taken a longer time for people to go about their normalities–their independence.
Mum fits into that bracket. So Mum was one of the first people to have her vaccinations. The people that had their vaccinations first are the people that we should look up to as a community because these were the first brave people to step up, forward, and put themselves up there, to say, “This is best for society,” and they are going to lead by example.
I actually had mine because I promised my mum the night before she had hers. I promised her, “Don’t worry, Mum.” At that time, everyone was a little bit apprehensive about the vaccine, or even up to today, which is June 2021, we still don’t know everything about the vaccine and we still don’t know everything about the virus. So it was just a case of, “Mum, don’t worry.” When it is time for me to have my vaccine, I promised her I am going to have mine.
So that was the ultimate reason why I had mine. Not only that. It was just safe for me to have it because I am on the front line, exposed to– My ward that I worked on was a red ward at the time, so it was just to protect myself and loved ones or anyone around me.
MB: That is amazing. So to put a slightly happier complexion on things, what are you looking forward to getting back when we kick the butt of this horrible disease?
KR: Life, for me hasn’t changed so much, Mark. I always tell people it is such a weird time because life for me never really changed even though it changed for the whole world, and my life always stayed the same.
So the only thing that did change was not being able to see my loved ones, my mother being one of them. So I just can’t wait until I see my family members, friends, the rest of the community a bit stronger mentally and a bit more feeling safer to go about their normality. Obviously, all being well.
MB: Thank you so, so much for that.